Evidence of meeting #24 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was projects.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Harry Nyce  President, Union of British Columbia Municipalities
Hans Cunningham  President, Federation of Canadian Municipalities; and Director for the Regional District Central Kootenay, British Columbia
Brock Carlton  Chief Executive Officer, Federation of Canadian Municipalities
Gary MacIsaac  Executive Director, Union of British Columbia Municipalities
Barbara Steele  First Vice-President, Union of British Columbia Municipalities
Michael Buda  Director of Policy, Federation of Canadian Municipalities

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

Ms. Steele, the other question I wanted to—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Can I just ask for clarification? Is it 50% that you're—?

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

This is the number that we have heard—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay. I just wanted to make sure. They both shook their heads.

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

—that 50% of projects will be over time.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Are you in agreement with that?

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First Vice-President, Union of British Columbia Municipalities

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

That 50% of your projects will be past the deadline.

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First Vice-President, Union of British Columbia Municipalities

Barbara Steele

That's a national question again.

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

So the national number.

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Chief Executive Officer, Federation of Canadian Municipalities

Brock Carlton

We don't have that figure. I don't know where that figure comes from.

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

It's a national number that we have heard in our canvass of different municipalities across the country.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

If that's your position, then that's fine. If not, I just wanted to clarify that.

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Chief Executive Officer, Federation of Canadian Municipalities

Brock Carlton

It's not our position. If 50% was the number, we would have heard about it during our annual meeting in Toronto. But we don't have a percentage. We know it's not 50%.

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Liberal

Gerard Kennedy Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

A point of clarification, Mr. Chairman.

The survey information we have in front of us indicates that 54%, 20 of 37 municipalities, would benefit from an extension—

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Mr. Chair, a point of order.

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

We're on a point of order.

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Liberal

Gerard Kennedy Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Excuse me, Mr. Chair.

Further, the same number had an impact from the extension, increased costs for sure for about 22%. So on a majority it would have an impact. This is the B.C. data that was collected by the B.C. association. Those are metrics that are from there. That's what we're saying there.

We will be releasing a study that we've done across the country, but the 50% is not the number there. It's lower than that, but it is still very significant.

So just because it's coming from this side, Mr. Chair... We will be releasing a study that we've conducted, and I'm just putting forward that what Ms. Crombie is referring to is that around half of the people contacted in the UBCM had a negative impact from the deadline.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean, on the same point.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I did have a point of order, Mr. Chair, but then I found out it was evidence that was garnered by Mr. Kennedy, so there's no interest in that.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Thank you.

Ms. Crombie.

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

I'd just like to continue, if I could, Ms. Steele, with you.

You had mentioned that the—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Watson, on a point of order.

June 15th, 2010 / 10:15 a.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

I was hoping to respond to the point of order.

Is that the same survey that was at the heart of a report this committee sent to the Speaker about a potential breach of privilege? Is that the same survey, Mr. Chair?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

That's not a point of order.

Ms. Crombie.