Evidence of meeting #29 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Wayne Cole  Procedural Clerk
Simon Dubé  Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance, Department of Transport
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Bonnie Charron

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

There can only be two, according to the current wording.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Monsieur Proulx.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I'm looking at the existing act and it says that three must be from Ontario, from local in Ontario, from the national capital region, of which two must live in the city of Ottawa. Then it says two from local municipalities from Quebec, of which one must be from the west section of the city of Gatineau, and then eight from anywhere else across Canada.

The proposal maintains the three from the national capital region on the Ontario side. It adds a third one to the local Quebec municipalities in the NCR, and then the other eight can come from wherever in Canada, but at least two from Quebec.

I think it's a fair balance, because it will give five from the province of Quebec and the other 10 will be from wherever, including three from Ottawa. I think it's fair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Before I recognize anyone, if we deal with BQ-2.1 and it passes, then BQ-2 won't proceed. I apologize for not saying that at the start.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

BQ-2.1 replaces BQ-2, doesn't it?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Right. If the first one is defeated, we can move on to the second one and deal with it. If the first one is approved, then we won't deal with the second one.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I see.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Is there any further comment?

Mr. Jean.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I understand there would be a minimum of five from Quebec, three from Ontario--so eight out of a possible 15--and seven from the rest of Canada.

Is that correct, Mr. Dubé?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

That sounds fine.

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Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance, Department of Transport

Simon Dubé

I don't have the motion in front of me, so it's not for me to comment.

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

There would be three from Ottawa, three from Gatineau, two from Quebec, and the rest from elsewhere in Canada.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

That would add up to 16.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

That's my point.

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Conservative

Lois Brown Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

But we just added these.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

No, we didn't.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Three, three, and eight is 14, plus the president is 15.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Yes, but my understanding is that five have to be from Gatineau.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

No. Five from the province of Quebec and three from Ottawa equals eight.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Plus at least eight from the rest of Canada would make 16, but we only have 15 to deal with.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

No, you have 16 because the chair is counted.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Is that correct, Mr. Dubé? I thought the motion was passed.

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Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance, Department of Transport

Simon Dubé

The chair should be counted as one specific member.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

So there would be 16 members on the board then. Is that what passed?

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Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance, Department of Transport

Simon Dubé

If you want to keep it at 15--