Evidence of meeting #41 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Caroline Fobes  Deputy Executive Director and Senior Counsel, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Chris Gregory  Director, North America, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Kristina Namiesniowski  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

I agree that the Bloc's three years is probably more reasonable than our two years. I think the only other difference is that we also call for a regular review every five years thereafter.

If the Bloc wants to add the point that we have the review every five years thereafter, in addition to within three years after the act comes into force, or else if the Bloc would like to accept our version, but with the amendment saying “within three years”, not “within two years”, either way I think it comes to the same thing.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I'm looking at Liberal 4, which is similar with regard to the review, and the difficulty I have with this is with regulations. They already have to be gazetted; they already have to be published. This proposal would take the executive authority away from the--

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Liberal amendment 4 and BQ-4?

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I thought we were on Liberal amendment 3.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

No.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Okay, sorry. I apologize. That's why I was confused.

Excellent. That's good, because that was exactly my point. Great.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Monsieur Guimond, would you accept the Liberal amendment with the insertion of your clause at the beginning of it?

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Yes, Mr. Chair.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

So we understand that Liberal amendment 4 would be presented with the first portion, the (1.1) BQ amendment substituted for number 3 in the Liberal amendment. Do we understand that?

Is it the second one?

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

That is correct.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Dhaliwal.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

We insert the other one in ours, so that will be the way to go.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

We're just trying to get that in the order.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

Okay, so why don't we do that?

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

BQ-4 will be withdrawn. We will go to LIB-4 and we're going to insert clause 1.1, the whole clause, and remove clause 3 on the Liberal amendment. So where the Liberal amendment says “Within two years after this Act comes into force and every five years thereafter” it will read “Within three years of this subsection coming into force, a comprehensive review of its operation shall be undertaken by such committee....”

Do we want to insert the five-year timeframe, Mr. McCallum?

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Yes.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

Five years, yes.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Monsieur Guimond, you're okay with that?

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Yes.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Mr. Chair, wouldn't it be simpler if we just kept ours as is and say “Within three years” instead of “Within two years”?

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Yes, we could do that.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Mr. Chair, the Conservatives just made a suggestion that I think is reasonable. Keep it at two years, but say it would be under a comprehensive review that's commenced. So within two years we would commence the review.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

So it would read: “Within two years after this Act comes into force”—