Evidence of meeting #41 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Caroline Fobes  Deputy Executive Director and Senior Counsel, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Chris Gregory  Director, North America, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Kristina Namiesniowski  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I think you should read it out.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Thanks, Mr. Chair.

It reads that Bill C-42 be amended in clause 2 by replacing lines 15 and 16 on page 1 with the following.... So it's lines 15 and 16, if everybody can direct their attention there.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Does everybody have a copy of the bill?

Okay, Mr. Jean.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

The motion is to replace lines 15 and 16 on page 1 with the following:

to land in a foreign state or fly over the United States and land outside Canada or of a Canadian

And then carry on.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

So you're substituting “due to land in the United States”.... Is that what you're saying?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Yes.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

And/or fly over? Is that what you're saying?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

...“to land in a foreign state or fly over the United States”. It's to include the fly-over, which was one of the NDP issues.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. McCallum.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Sorry. And to continue on, my second amendment would be replacing lines 18 and 19, so leaving line 17 there, and substituting instead:

Canada that is due to land in a foreign state or fly over the United States may, in accordance with the

And then carry on with the subsection. So it would be to reflect the United States and the fly-over provisions.

Are you happy, Mr. Bevington?

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Dennis Bevington NDP Western Arctic, NT

On that particular aspect, yes.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Those subamendments would be inadmissible. We would need the agreement of the entire committee to—

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Or just to challenge....

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Or challenge it, yes.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I would so challenge, Mr. Chair, unfortunately.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

The challenge that we have here is that in the LIB-3 amendment, they are actually adding lines, and therefore your subamendment is correcting lines within the bill itself.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Absolutely.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

But that's what makes it inadmissible, and we would have to deal with the LIB-3 amendment first and then go back to the subamendment. It would be a new amendment at that point.

Mr. McCallum.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

I think the amendment proposed by the government achieves directly what we were seeking to achieve indirectly. If the legislation is limited to the United States, we do not need our own amendment, because that means that no other country could be included without amendment to the legislation. So that would mean that we would withdraw our amendment and go instead with Mr. Jean's amendment.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I need to make sure everybody is in agreement with that.

Monsieur Guimond.

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Yes, okay.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

So what we would have to do is have the LIB-3 amendment withdrawn, which Mr. McCallum has agreed to, but we still need someone to move the amendments that Mr. Jean has proposed.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

I will move the amendment.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Dhaliwal will move the amendment, as read by Mr. Jean. It still makes it inadmissible.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

I'll blame you now.