I would like to comment on what was said.
First, I said we're utilizing Transport Canada. We are partners in safety at the airlines where our members work, but we utilize Transport Canada as a user rather than as a partner. Our members get their licences from Transport Canada. They write tests for Transport Canada. They utilize Transport Canada more as a service or a service provider than as a partnership. But they are definitely in partnership on safety with the companies where they work. That's absolutely 100% there.
Secondly, I think Mr. Balnis made the comments about the Canada Labour Code as far as safety goes. We have more avenues--and I think this is where he was going--as a bargaining union through the Canada Labour Code under health and safety than under SMS, because the union isn't part of it.