Evidence of meeting #75 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was projects.

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Scott Clements  President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority
Stephen Taylor  Director, National Citizens Coalition

3:55 p.m.

Stephen Taylor Director, National Citizens Coalition

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The National Citizens Coalition is a supporter-based organization founded in 1967 and counts tens of thousands of supporters in its ranks. Our organization is founded upon the principle of more freedom through less government. We advocate on issues of reducing waste in the public sector for the more efficient delivery of services to Canadians.

We applaud the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities for taking on an important study on how competition can make infrastructure dollars go further. Indeed, basic economics teaches that competition reduces price, while it increases quality. As competition relates to the construction industry, it should be the objective of any legislator to optimize price for the taxpayer with the quality of work. Indeed, Canada's construction industry makes up 7.1% of the Canadian workforce and accounts for 6% of its GDP.

The 2009 budget saw the economic investment of approximately 2% of Canada's GDP in stimulus projects, many of which were construction-related. With the latest budget, the finance minister has set Canada's infrastructure trajectory for the next decade, establishing long-term spending in Canada's construction industry.

Of course, many of these projects and much of the funding will be realized at the provincial and municipal levels. If so, many federal dollars are to be allocated to infrastructure projects. If they are, it is in the best interests of the taxpayer to attain the best price for these projects. With the construction of roads, bridges, hospitals, and schools, a fixed budget means that fewer projects will be completed, that is to say, fewer schools, fewer hospitals, bridges, and roads constructed when the costs are not optimized.

It is our view that closed construction procurement has the effect of inflating infrastructure costs. When projects are put to tender to a limited or restricted labour pool, competition is reduced, limiting bidding to a favoured few.

Canada's unionized labour rate, as of 2011, was just over 31%. Closed tendering or limited bidding on contracts to contractors with collective agreements closes out nearly seven out of 10 Canadians. These Canadians also contribute taxes towards these infrastructure projects and are just as entitled to work. Indeed, many infrastructure projects are touted as make-work projects. However, this work is often only accessible to a fraction of the workforce. Further, according to Cardus, 26% of Ontario residents live in jurisdictions that are bound by construction labour monopolies.

Union status is not a guarantor of quality. Construction companies are already bound by jurisdictional regulations and bonding requirements, let alone the fact that reputational effects that follow shoddy work can result in fewer contracts in the future.

In a 2001 study of a closed-shop construction tendering process in the New York area, Ernst & Young found that, “There is no quantitative evidence that suggests a difference in the quality of work performed by union or open shop contractors.”

It is our view that the federal government, if it is to spend billions on infrastructure development, should place conditions upon infrastructure spending that are transferred to the provinces and municipalities. Opening up the tendering process makes the infrastructure dollar go farther. Closed tendered bidding processes are, at the worse end of the spectrum, a kickback scheme for organized labour in return for electing union-pandering governments. At the very worst, it's the sort of corruption that is currently being investigated by the Charbonneau commission in Quebec.

I was recently made aware of perhaps the most egregious example of Ontario's backward process for tendering contracts. Two workers in Waterloo signed union cards on some particularly tranquil Sunday, but because they represented over 55% of the workforce at work sites in the city at that particular moment, Waterloo became a closed-shop zone, binding the city to the collective agreement of that particular union.

Take the labour woes of the City of Hamilton. Because of restrictive labour agreements in that city, construction budgets are out of control, adding up to 40% in extra costs to those projects. For example, in the industrial, commercial, institutional, residential, and heavy engineering sectors, the City of Hamilton estimates an annual inflated cost between $4 and $10 million.

Even workers in other unions are shut out of closed tendering systems. The favoured few are set up and are able to bid higher on projects, shutting out the vast majority of the labour pool in both union and non-union shops. In a 2007 City of Hamilton report, only 17 out of 260 large construction firms were affiliated with the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, which is the city bargaining unit. The city estimated that its closed bid association with the union would cost it hundreds of millions of dollars and harm the economic development of the city.

In 2012, Hamilton does not fare much better, with $147 million under the labour monopoly, according to the “Cardus Construction Competitiveness Monitor”. When that number is projected province-wide under restricted labour markets, it amounts to $747 million that is not accessible to seven out of 10 Canadian workers who have chosen not to join a union.

Almost everyone's understanding of economics suggests that reduced competition leads to higher costs and lower quality. We've seen Canadian and American examples where labour monopolies lead to fewer projects completed, with highly inflated budgets. The federal government is responsible for moving billions to the provinces under the building Canada fund. We recommend that these funds be allocated to projects that do not impose a restrictive closed bidding process. By imposing an open tendering process attached to infrastructure dollars, we can ensure that those dollars go further and that there is greater transparency in the process, to avoid collusion and corruption in monopolistic construction schemes.

Thank you very much.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Thank you.

We'll move into questioning.

Ms. Chow, go ahead for seven minutes.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Mr. Clements, I take it you haven't quite finished talking about what you recommend we do.

One of the things we debated about a year or more ago, was what role the federal government should have under the Transportation Act to deal with airports that are starting up. Right now, there really isn't a specific process whereby the federal government would be involved, so it's not that coordinated, and you talked a bit about that.

At the time, we suggested that perhaps the best way is to have some kind of process whereby the local municipality or Transport Canada would have a team to look at whether the establishment of this airport complements the entire picture. But that requires changing the Transportation Act.

Is that something you are interested in? I know you talked about the 47 airports that are just growing, and sometimes it's very difficult to coordinate it.

4:05 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority

Scott Clements

Yes, in the context of the Fort McMurray example, brand new airports are built in the bush. Actually, Transport Canada doesn't approve those. That's the Province of Alberta, in this case.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Do you think the federal government should be involved in dealing with it, or should we leave it to the provincial government?

4:05 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority

Scott Clements

Transport Canada's director general in Winnipeg, Kate Fletcher, I know well. She has been watching Fort McMurray for some time and has expressed her discomfort that she doesn't have the regulations she needs to look after that very special situation, and she's actually said that in public.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Okay.

4:05 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority

Scott Clements

I couldn't agree more with her. Otherwise, how on earth would we have ended up with the situation we have right now?

She is very pleased, as I am, that we have had that study, that we have that group together, and that, by and large, we have people understanding what we need to do, moving ahead.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Perhaps your team, the group you work with, could come up with some suggestions on how the Transportation Act can be amended so that the federal government has the regulatory power to help coordinate when the situation starts, so that we don't wait until after the airport is built and then try to coordinate it. At least there would be a plan and growth that's according to a plan. If not, it will just be chaotic.

4:05 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority

Scott Clements

If it is to be a certified airport, then Transport Canada is certainly involved. It's the private airports they are not involved with, and quite frankly, in certain cases they should be. If the act needs to be changed, so be it.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

We're finding it's not just in Alberta. We're finding it in other parts of the country that sometimes people would just come and start up an airport without consulting with the local government or the neighbours, and as a result—

May 30th, 2013 / 4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

On a point of order, Mr. Watson.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

While this is an interesting topic, it has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand in terms of orders of the day, which is how competition makes infrastructure dollars go further. It might be a nice item of interest, but that's not the item in front of the committee today.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I know, Mr. Chair, but—

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

I know. She missed it.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

—Mr. Clements spoke about that very specifically. I thought in respect to the witness, who came all the way from Alberta, we should at least respect what the witness has to say, which is why I asked the question.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

For the record, we did speak to Mr. Clements. The remarks and questions today are about making infrastructure dollars go further, so we should keep to that. Mr. Watson has a good point.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Mr. Clements, following that up, do you think the federal government should impose conditions on infrastructure grants? For example, your airport authority. If the airport authority wants to apply for funding under the federal government infrastructure plan, should there be some kind of condition to say that you need to make sure there's a public-private partnership or any other number of conditions that the federal government may want to impose, in order for you to get any federal funding? Do you think that's a good way to go?

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority

Scott Clements

Related to my remarks about systems integration and congestion management, my suggestion would be that you ask the question of the applicants, particularly where it's applicable, of how they considered congestion management and how they considered systems integration in their proposals.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Can you tell me a bit more about systems integration and congestion management, because it's very interesting. What does that mean?

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority

Scott Clements

Sure. There are many modes of transportation, and each one of them is in its own silo. There are many jurisdictions involved. The trick is to get them all together as best as possible where it's applicable—and it's certainly applicable in the Wood Buffalo region—and if you have grant dollars and you have leverage, somehow force the consideration, which might not otherwise happen, of people talking together, and putting a little water in their wine, and selecting an approach that doesn't particularly favour one or the other but gets the job done with less money spent.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Does that mean something like if there is a discussion about building railway tracks or—

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Fort McMurray Airport Authority

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

—roads versus airports, there would be some kind of coordinated effort so that the mode that makes the most sense and gives best bang for the buck would be what the federal government would support? Is that your example?