Evidence of meeting #62 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was transport.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Laureen Kinney  Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
Brigitte Diogo  Director General, Rail Safety, Department of Transport

4:25 p.m.

Director General, Rail Safety, Department of Transport

Brigitte Diogo

On this point about the accident, Transport Canada was on the ground in deploying inspectors—track inspectors, and bridge inspectors. The company has submitted a risk mitigation plan of the actions they were taking to deal with this situation at the time, but also to mitigate the issue going forward. Part of our response had been to complete a track inspection of the entire subdivision. On the basis of what we learned there and what we see happening, we will look at what amendments we want to make to our risk-based planning, which has led to the identification of the areas of focus of our inspection plans for the year. We have had internal discussions with our regional officers to discuss what amendments, if any, we need to make to the plan that was originally set at the beginning of the year—whether there were changes that would affect the plans, not only for the Ontario Region but also other regions across Canada.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Sorry, Mr. Sullivan, you don't have time.

Mr. Komarnicki, the last question.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Okay, I actually had two, but maybe I will ask one in a general sort of way.

Obviously, there are regulations to conduct the operations, but on top of those you have the safety management system. In my understanding of it, it's something additional that required a period of maturation and a culture to develop to eventually come into implementation, where you can actually see results.

Where are we in that continuum, when you're looking at the safety management systems and the regulations you've put in place?

4:25 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport

Laureen Kinney

I think it would be a little bit difficult when you're in the middle of the evolutionary process necessarily to be too specific speculating on that, Mr. Chair, but I would say that the initial phase was very much a learning one. There was a new type of regulation put in place that's really intended to drill down below the known causes of accidents and the evident issues that are out there, to find root causes and create the safety culture, etc. From the first 10 years or so of putting this in place, we now have a much more rigorous regulation in place. That will be reviewed for its effectiveness over the next few years. We'll be able to judge then whether we've reached a relatively mature stage with the industry or whether there are more requirements, and that will be demonstrated by the effectiveness.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Thank you very much, Mr. Komarnicki.

I'd like to thank the officials from Transport Canada for coming here to testify and to give us information, and also for the work that they have been doing. Thank you very much.

We will suspend.

[Proceedings continue in camera]