Evidence of meeting #110 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was capacity.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Sonterra Ross  Chief Operating Officer, Greater Victoria Harbour Authority
Peter Xotta  Vice-President, Planning and Operations, Vancouver Fraser Port Authority
Ewan Moir  President and Chief Executive Officer, Nanaimo Port Authority
Matt Jeneroux  Edmonton Riverbend, CPC
Derek Ollmann  President, Southern Railway of British Columbia
Geoff Cross  Vice-President, Transportation Planning and Policy, New Westminster, TransLink
Brad Bodner  Director, Business Development, Canadian National Railway Company
James Clements  Vice-President, Strategic Planning and Transportation Services, Canadian Pacific Railway
Roger Nober  Executive Vice-President, Law and Corporate Affairs, BNSF Railway Company
Marko Dekovic  Vice-President, Public Affairs, Global Container Terminals
Rob Booker  Senior Vice-President, Operations and Maintenance, Neptune Bulk Terminals (Canada) Ltd.
Serge Buy  Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Ferry Association
Brad Eshleman  Chair, BC Marine Terminal Operators Association
Zoran Knezevic  President and Chief Executive Officer, Port Alberni Port Authority
Gagan Singh  Spokesperson, United Trucking Association
Rosyln MacVicar  Regional Director General, Pacific Region, Canada Border Services Agency
Robert Lewis-Manning  President, Chamber of Shipping
Roy Haakonson  Captain, President, British Columbia Coast Pilots Ltd.
Robin Stewart  Captain, Vice-President, British Columbia Coast Pilots Ltd.
Michael O'Shaughnessy  Director, Logistics, Teck Resources Limited
Greg Northey  Director, Industry Relations, Pulse Canada
Joel Neuheimer  Vice-President, International Trade and Transportation, Forest Products Association of Canada
Parm Sidhu  General Manager, Abbotsford International Airport
Gerry Bruno  Vice President, Federal Government Affairs, Vancouver International Airport Authority
Geoff Dickson  President and Chief Executive Officer, Victoria Airport Authority
Peter Luckham  Chair, Islands Trust Council, Islands Trust

4:45 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Victoria Airport Authority

Geoff Dickson

No, it's throughout Canada, within the Canadian Airports Council, which is our advocacy group for the Canadian airports. It's structured into the eight largest airports in the country and then all the other member airports, the smaller airports. That's typically the airports that would be our size, from two million passengers down to a few hundred thousand.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

Do you know which members of your association are from Quebec?

4:45 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Victoria Airport Authority

Geoff Dickson

The Quebec City airport certainly is. I think there's just Quebec City, but I'm not 100% certain on that.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

For us, the Jean-Lesage Airport in Québec City is still a major airport, behind Montréal, of course. We would not consider referring to the Québec City airport as a regional airport. We would instead do so regarding small airports, such as the one in Sherbrooke or Trois-Rivières.

Could those airports be members of your association?

4:45 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Victoria Airport Authority

Geoff Dickson

They certainly can.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

What services could they receive as members of your association?

4:45 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Victoria Airport Authority

Geoff Dickson

If they had an interest in being pushed forward at the federal level, if they had access to information, best practices in airport management.... There are a number of different committees, whether operations or environmental management practices, that come together with the airports with information sharing.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

Thank you.

I will come back to you, Mr. Sidhu.

You spoke about flying schools at the Abbotsford Airport, one of which specializes in Chinook helicopters. You certainly also have flying schools for airplanes. As we know, there will be a shortage of pilots in the industry, sooner rather than later.

Do you have difficulty recruiting students and instructors?

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Give a short answer, please.

4:50 p.m.

General Manager, Abbotsford International Airport

Parm Sidhu

The long and short is yes. We're getting an abundance of students. Intake is high, but now we're seeing a shortfall in instructors.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much.

Go ahead, Mr. Iacono.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I'd like you to continue with that response if you have anything else to say.

4:50 p.m.

General Manager, Abbotsford International Airport

Parm Sidhu

The shortage of pilots is going to impact airports and airlines not just in North America but globally.

We have three schools that are trying to fill whatever shortages they can, but they're not going to solve the problem alone.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

My question is for Mr. Bruno.

What have you done to attain such high scores to make the Vancouver International Airport Canada's largest airport in terms of domestic air flights and third-largest in cargo? Is there anything else that you'd like to add? You've made a few comments based on the questions that have been asked of you. What's the one thing that really got you to have those kinds of results?

4:50 p.m.

Vice President, Federal Government Affairs, Vancouver International Airport Authority

Gerry Bruno

That's a tough question. We've been asked that by many people in the past.

I don't know. I think there's a spirit of innovation. We have pioneered a lot of new things at our airport. For example, the automated border clearance kiosk that many of you use when you arrive at an international airport is something we developed ourselves and sell around the world. We actually have 65% of the U.S. airport market.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

In other words, you've made your airport a smart airport. Is that it?

4:50 p.m.

Vice President, Federal Government Affairs, Vancouver International Airport Authority

Gerry Bruno

Yes, you could say that.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Is that technology something that you're sharing with other airports?

4:50 p.m.

Vice President, Federal Government Affairs, Vancouver International Airport Authority

Gerry Bruno

Absolutely. As I said, we do sell the kiosks to other airports.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Okay.

I have another tough question for you.

I'm happy to hear about your rapid growth and attaining the 26-million passenger mark. What do you have to say about noise pollution from air traffic flights in the vicinities of major airports?

4:50 p.m.

Vice President, Federal Government Affairs, Vancouver International Airport Authority

Gerry Bruno

It's the reality of airports. Airplanes make noise. It's been the story of our history in aviation. It's a tough one, and we have tried to do everything we can. We have a noise management committee, which works with the local community. The airlines are on board.

Airlines are using newer aircraft that are much quieter than the older models, and we have put mitigation measures in place by working closely with NAV Canada and the airlines to look at the flight paths and to try to minimize the impact on communities. However, the reality is that airports are noisy.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Okay.

Would the other two like to add something to that? I know it doesn't affect you as much, but—

4:50 p.m.

General Manager, Abbotsford International Airport

Parm Sidhu

As we're locally owned and operated, we are part of the community. We work closely with anyone who has a comment or a concern. We'll bring them out to tour the airport. We want to be good friends and good neighbours.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Thank you.

4:50 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Victoria Airport Authority

Geoff Dickson

Similarly, we're talking. We have discussions of flight paths. We have certain restrictions, including operating hour restrictions. I think it's important to engage with the community on a regular basis.