Evidence of meeting #13 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was jobs.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Sara Wiebe  Director General, Air Policy, Department of Transport
Daniel Blasioli  Senior Counsel, Department of Transport
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Bartholomew Chaplin

6:05 p.m.

Senior Counsel, Department of Transport

Daniel Blasioli

Yes, absolutely.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

So the amendment we are proposing would be in order, from a legal standpoint.

May 11th, 2016 / 6:05 p.m.

Senior Counsel, Department of Transport

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Great.

We can go vote.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

All right, thank you very much.

We can allow the witnesses to leave since we won't require them afterwards.

I will suspend the meeting. Please return immediately following the vote so that we can continue.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We are reconvening. I call the meeting back to order.

We are still dealing with Bill C-10. Is there any further debate or discussion on Bill C-10?

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

The vote just gave me some new ideas to speak about.

I am just joking, Madam Chair.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you, Mr. Berthold.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

I know that everyone here wants to listen to me for a long time. It's a nice experience. Above all, I have had a chance to present my arguments on Bill C-10. Thank you for listening to me for such a long time.

I have much more to say. In fact, I did not even have time to cover the Government of Manitoba's presentation. I could have probably used the same arguments I used earlier, when talking about the Quebec government.

I can tell by the way she is looking at me that Madam Chair is afraid that I will launch into a long speech. I don't have much more to say.

In closing, on behalf of those who have come to testify before us, especially the representatives of unions and provinces, I ask the government representatives one last time to reconsider a hasty passing of Bill C-10. Yes, I talked for a long time, but there was much to be said. I wanted to put it out there. The time allocation motion has unfortunately limited us during the debates on Bill C-10. So in a short period of time, I have summarized all that we had wanted to say in the House concerning Bill C-10.

With that, Madam Chair, we will not have to order food. I brought a sandwich, not because I was expecting to speak for a long time, but simply to have a little something once my colleague begins her presentation.

Thank you.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much, Mr. Berthold.

If we want the meeting to go on until 10, 11, 12 o'clock, I think we can deal with that.

Go right ahead.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

I have one final intervention on the amendment.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Go right ahead, Ms. Block.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

In response to what I've heard and to refocus us on the amendment, because I've yet to hear very much from members opposite with regard to the amendment and whether or not they support the amendment, first, I would respond to the comment of my colleague Mr. Boulerice about the amendment and his question regarding the substance of it. Air Canada wasn't meeting its obligations under the current legislation; that was clear. So for us to vote for the status quo, which is what the NDP motion called for, was not acceptable. We had members across the way indicate to us what this bill will do. However, officials said they couldn't speak to how Air Canada would choose to operationalize this legislation. I think they're probably reaching too far to believe that they can do the same.

That being said, the amendment I put forward is about when the bill comes into force. I have not heard any compelling arguments from any of my colleagues as to why this would not be something they would consider.

I would ask any of the lawyers across the table if their negotiating position would change if the government changed a law that they were defending in mid-trial.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much, Ms. Block.

I'm not seeing any further debate. We will call a vote on Conservative amendment number one.

All those in favour of—

6:40 p.m.

NDP

Alexandre Boulerice NDP Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Madam Chair, I request a recorded vote.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

All right.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 1 agreed to on division)

(Clauses 2 and 3 agreed to)

Shall the title carry?

6:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Shall the bill carry?

6:40 p.m.

NDP

Alexandre Boulerice NDP Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

I would like to request a recorded vote.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We will have a recorded vote.

(Bill C-10 agreed to: yeas 5, nays 4)

Shall I report the bill to the House?

6:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

That's it.

The bill has been carried. Thank you all very much for your patience and your help getting through a bill on which I know all of us wanted to make sure we did the very best job that we could. I think everyone put their points of view in and did a very good job on it.

Mr. Berthold.

6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Madam Chair, we have informally discussed the Lac-Mégantic visit. I would like to obtain the committee members' consent, so that our clerk can organize the visit, planned for June 2 and 3.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you, Mr. Berthold. It's my understanding that all our members are making arrangements to go as well, other than Mr. Fraser, who may not be able to go.

There is one other thing. Ms. Duncan has asked about the supplementary estimates that we're going to attempt to do on the 18th; she has asked to ensure that we have the appropriate officials here to discuss the estimates.

Mr. Clerk, if you can, please ensure that we have the appropriate officials, who would be able to answer a variety of questions on the supplementary estimates for both infrastructure and transportation.

We've done our Lac-Mégantic, and—

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

I have a question on Lac-Mégantic. Is it possible that I could get a return to Montreal?