No. I'll give you an example. What we said in our submission was that we think we should utilize all those financing opportunities available. For example, one of our members, Nova Scotia Power, under Emera, supported by a loan guarantee of the federal government, was able to have this Maritime link going from Churchill Falls and linking Newfoundland for the first time to the North American grid. It was a $1.3-billion project. Without loan guarantees from the federal government that provide the spark plug, such projects don't normally happen—
On May 16th, 2017. See this statement in context.