Evidence of meeting #61 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

André Lapointe  Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Services, Department of Transport
Natasha Rascanin  Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs, Department of Transport
Neil Parry  Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
Jacques Fauteux  Director, Government and Community Relations, VIA Rail Canada Inc.
Paul Griffin  President and Chief Executive Officer, Marine Atlantic Inc.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Yes.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

I think what you're saying is a little misleading in terms of what this committee was tasked to do. It's never understood that when a committee is tasked to look at a piece of legislation and go through it clause by clause.... I would assume that we would deal with that like any other piece of legislation referred to this committee. To purport that committees can just send their recommendations to the Minister of Finance when something has been referred to a committee—

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

I have a point of order.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

We would make amendments or recommendations for changes to a piece of legislation that fell under our purview. We would not do that individually but as a committee. The informal structure this committee undertook, the two clauses that were sent to us by the finance committee...then we arrive here and find out that a letter has been sent that nobody saw, that nobody was asked about, yet we have nothing to say. These things are making this committee increasingly dysfunctional.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

I don't think the committee is dysfunctional, but—

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

I know you like to think that.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

This clause was referred to us by finance—not the legislation, but a clause of the legislation. It was referred to finance. Finance took the option of sending it to various committees if they wanted to contribute. In speaking with our members, they asked to contribute, especially Mr. Rayes. I had it on the agenda, and we allocated a two-hour block of time—

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

Who did?

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

This committee did.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

No. We never had any input into how much time was going to be spent on this piece of legislation.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

There were only two meetings, and we had to respond to finance on Friday.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

The point is that we don't have any input into the agenda.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We're supposed to be discussing the agenda, by the way.

Mr. Aubin.

May 30th, 2017 / 12:05 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

I'm lost. I'd like to know what we are talking about. I hear a discussion about the letter. I hear a discussion about how long the committee was supposed to have to study the Canada Infrastructure Bank. On top of that, Mrs. Block's motion is being discussed. What are we dealing with exactly? All the issues seem to be on the table at the same time. My sense is that we are really off track.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

I think so, because that's an issue we're having to deal with.

We're going to need to go back to Mr. Berthold. At this point, we are in open session. We were supposed to be dealing with committee business. What is the desire of the committee?

You have the floor, Mr. Berthold. If you choose to continue until one o'clock, that's up to the committee, but you'll have to continue to speak to the motion that Ms. Block put on the floor.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Madam Chair, we should probably move on to committee business in order to plan out the work we have to do in the three weeks we have left. I wouldn't object to that. I think we absolutely have to talk about it to make sure our next few meetings run smoothly.

Even though I still have a number of pertinent comments about carbon pricing, I don't object to bringing the discussion on the motion to an end. I'm not sure whether my fellow members who had asked to speak will want to address the motion. I, however, have no qualms with ending the discussion so that we can move on to committee business.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

The next speaker is Mr. Iacono, speaking to the motion by Ms. Block.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

I move that this debate be adjourned, and that we pass to a vote.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

That's why we will always do that.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Mr. Iacono has moved that we adjourn the debate.

(Motion agreed to)

I'll go back to our agenda, to the supplementary estimates.

I need to ask the committee if members want to vote on the supplementary estimates, or do we allow them to continue?

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

Yes.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

All right.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Madam Chair, if I may—

12:10 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

The committee voted.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Yes, the committee voted on the motion to adjourn. That's all.