It's still a cabotage run, and under the definitions of cabotage that are there, that's cabotage. That's considered cabotage, because you're moving something between two Canadian ports.
This has to be perfectly clear. That shipowner still has the ability to move that. All he has to do is apply for a waiver, which he'll get if no Canadian shipowner wants to move that particular container.
If you look at all of these years where it's been done by rail and truck, why all of a sudden is it open? Under CETA, it was open for certain reasons, and I believed the reasons that I was told. There were compromises made. It was a negotiation. That's what was done. However, to open it more, to liberalize it more under Bill C-49, is opening the gate to any flag, to any rogue owner, and anything that they want to do.
Concessions were made in a trade negotiation. We all understand that. Concessions are made every day. How they got to that concession...like I said, it was explained to me and I accepted it. Now it's a conscious choice of whether we open it up to more cabotage. We're not in a negotiation with anyone but ourselves right now on what we're going to do with cabotage.