That was a perfect segue.
With respect to pipeline capacity, and our ability to export, although you mentioned they're not a sure thing, the projects that would see export capacity grow, both through Keystone to the south and through the southern portion of B.C., where would that bring our export capacity to in comparison to where CAPP is projecting that we're going to be? As we said, it's 5.1 million barrels a day for 2030, if we use their projections. If these two projects go ahead, would additional capacity be needed to pretty much meet our export number?