Evidence of meeting #3 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was aircraft.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Nicholas Robinson  Director General, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
David Turnbull  Director, National Aircraft Certification, Department of Transport
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Caroline Bosc

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

May I have a few seconds to consult with my whip?

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

That's fine. Go ahead.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Scot Davidson Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

I just want to ask a question.

How much does it cost the taxpayer? How much do we pay a vice-chair?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

It's $6,000 a year.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Scot Davidson Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

I'm just always concerned about the taxpayer. I'm just getting a....

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Six thousand a year. We're okay with that.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

Okay. We do have a motion.

There is another question.

Ms. Ashton.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Obviously, Mr. Chair, I wasn't party to the lead-up in these conversations. I have tremendous respect for my colleague in the Bloc, but I am of the understanding that these discussions are still ongoing at PROC, and certainly with respect as well to the NDP's involvement as well. I am concerned about the fact that we are approaching this discussion as a one-off rather than respecting the process that is already under way at the PROC committee.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

Thank you, Ms. Ashton.

Mr. Bittle.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

My understanding, and I'm happy to be proven wrong, is that PROC has decided in terms of adding an extra vice-chair, but it hasn't been concurred in yet in the House. Obviously, if the House decides to do that, it's something we can revisit, but I believe, pursuant to the Standing Orders, that with regard to a third party, they have the ability to be the second vice-chair of the committee until such time as the rules pursuant to that are amended.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

Thank you, Mr. Bittle.

Are there further questions or comments on the motion?

Mr. Barsalou-Duval.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

Mr. Chair, could you please explain the usual practice for this type of motion, given that it concerns me directly.

Is there a potential conflict of interest that would require me to abstain from voting on the motion?

I would also like to say that it is important and normal for there to be a deputy chair from the Bloc Québécois, the second opposition party.

However, I would like you to clarify the first part of my question.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

You can vote.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

Is it customary to allow that?

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

You're fine. You don't have a conflict of interest.

Are there further questions or comments?

Ms. Ashton.

5:15 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Maybe just as a lead-up, I appreciate that information. My latest information is from our whip's office. Again, this is not to oppose a particular proposal, but rather to support both the PROC committee and now, of course, the House in taking the necessary steps before we jump in as a committee.

I think it's a question as well of respecting that these processes are there in such a way that they apply to all committees, rather than committees going off in any one direction. I appreciate that the point was made about revisiting, but I also think that in this very moment it's important to respect processes as they are ongoing, whether in committee or in the House.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

Thank you, Ms. Ashton.

Are there further questions or comments, members?

(Motion agreed to)

Thank you.

We're now going to move to the witnesses.

We have a study ongoing right now. Names of witnesses have been presented to the clerk's office as of Monday at four o'clock. The clerk is saying that if you want to submit additional witnesses you can have an extension to 4 p.m. on Wednesday.

Is that fine with you, Madam Clerk?

Members, if you have any additional witnesses for this study, you're more than welcome to submit that list to the clerk's office no later than 4 p.m. on Wednesday.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Wednesday is tomorrow?

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

Wednesday is tomorrow.

Do you have a question on that, Mr. Rogers?

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Churence Rogers Liberal Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, NL

It's not about the witnesses.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

Okay.

Do you have a question on that, Mr. Berthold?

No. Okay.

Mr. Rogers.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Churence Rogers Liberal Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, NL

I wanted to bring this to the attention of the committee. I'm bringing an amended motion in regard to the ministers' visits on Thursday. We all agreed that the Minister of Transport and the Minister of Infrastructure and Communities would be invited to attend on Thursday to talk about mandate letters.

Given our schedule and timeline now that we're going to be doing the Max 8 witness study until March 24 in a very tight time frame, I'm thinking that it's in the best interests of the committee if we want to get an opportunity to question the ministers on supplementary estimates that we try to squeeze it into our Thursday session.

I'm prepared to table an amended motion that we would invite the ministers to answer questions on supplementary estimates on Thursday as well.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

Thank you, Mr. Rogers.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Churence Rogers Liberal Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, NL

I have a copy of the motion here, Mr. Chair, if you want—

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Vance Badawey

If you want to distribute it, that would be great. Thank you.