Is the wage subsidy working for my members at Air Canada and Air Canada Rouge? No, it's not.
Roughly 72% of our members, just shy of 7,000 members, have been laid off or will be laid off in the next week. Of all those members, none is able to participate in the CEWS program because the company is not utilizing it for those members.
Do I think the government should do more? Yes, I think there should be a tie-in with the program that if the program is going to be used for active employees, those who are flicked off as inactive or those who are laid off or furloughed should be placed on the program.
One of the main things with the program is to keep the employee connected to the job force, to keep them able to be flicked on, per se, instead of going through a huge recall process. Of course there is an avenue there to bargain with the union to deal with the benefits, the pension and the other things that come along with it, so yes, I definitely think more needs to be done.