There are projects that are shovel in the ground, which means they're being built. Shovel-ready means a delayed project, because nobody's going to plan a project, put it together and then have it sit there and wait for something to happen with it.
Coming into 2020, the industry had a lot of backlog. The year 2019 was a really good one for construction. There was a lot of backlog that carried them through. That backlog isn't there. Even though they're working and doing things, when they look out a few months, there isn't that confidence that the level of work will stay with them. Talking with the engineering groups, when the designers start seeing gaps in their workflow, you know that's translating down to real construction in a matter of months. That is the weakness. Even when they look at Q3 and Q4 of this year, there isn't that flow of projects.