Yes. I think you've asked the right question. The challenge is that the answer isn't one piece within that. I think that's what I would really want the members to appreciate. The synchronization of all of that has to change fundamentally in how it operates. That will come through automation, which will allow the right scheduling so that things can move faster. It's not that they're not being as effective and efficient as they can be within the construct that they have. We probably need to change the construct.
Now, I will say, and I've been slapped on the wrist before for saying this, that when we talk.... I was at the supply chain summit, with my colleagues who are on the phone, and I raised the issue of automation in the ports. That immediately raised concern from the labour unions who were also participating. My point was that this isn't a question about reducing the human capacity. I'm not here to try to suggest that we shouldn't have union workers and that we shouldn't have more, but they don't have the tools, the automation tools, to be able to do things. This is a fundamental shift in how all ports need to operate. Is Canada going to step up and invest and push the envelope to make those changes, or are we going to wait for someone in Europe or someone in San Francisco to do it? That will be the challenge.
It's a complex issue. These are all complex issues. That's the challenge. I wish I had silver bullets. We don't, though.