Evidence of meeting #124 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was passengers.

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Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Chair, before we do that, can I propose my subamendment? I had my hand up there for a second.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Sure. I thought that was for a point of order, but go ahead.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I would like to propose a subamendment to add a third point, as per Mr. Lawrence's suggestion. It is to add “The government has failed to provide the leadership and resources required to re-establish reliable, affordable bus services connecting Canadian communities in the wake of Greyhound's termination of its Canadian service.”

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Mr. Bachrach, thank you for putting forward that subamendment.

I will have to make the ruling that it's not within the scope of the meeting under Standing Order 106(4) that's been put forward. It's not that I disagree with the intent or what's behind it, but I don't think it's within the scope of what we're trying to get at here, which specifically addresses the rail chaos.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

What are we trying to get at here, Mr. Chair?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

We could read out terms of the Standing Order 106(4) meeting that we're here to discuss. It relates to trying to get to the bottom of what happened to the passengers who were stranded for—

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Chair, I don't have the Standing Order 106(4) letter in front of me. Does it refer to the status of Canada's airports?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

It does not. It deals with—

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Then could I have a ruling on whether that's in order?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

If you want to challenge the chair with regard to my decision that it is out of scope, by all means do so. It's your right, Mr. Bachrach.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I'm just looking for consistency, Mr. Chair. It feels like we're all over the place.

Noon

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I will challenge your decision, but I'm a little bit lost in terms of procedure. Maybe you could help me out here.

Ms. Romanado brought an amendment to remove paragraphs b) and c). Mr. Bachrach is proposing a paragraph d), I think. Do I have that right? Am I missing something here?

I'm sorry. It's still the summer for me.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

You're correct.

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

Are we removing paragraphs b) and c) and adding d)? Is that what we're doing? Sorry.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

No.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

It was put forward by Ms. Romanado that we would remove “This committee condemn” and everything below that.

Noon

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

That's right, yes. What was Mr. Bachrach's subamendment to that?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Mr. Bachrach, do you want to reread the subamendment you were putting forward regarding Greyhound buses in the country?

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I would be happy to.

As I followed what just happened, the subamendment to sustain the three points was defeated. Is that correct?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Yes, it was defeated.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Right, so we're now talking about Ms. Romanado's amendment, which is to remove those points. I'm making a subamendment to add an additional point.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Yes.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Okay.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Your additional point is with regard to Greyhound service in Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Yes. I bring this forward, Mr. Chair, because the way in which I vote on Ms. Romanado's amendment to remove all of those points depends on whether or not my point is included. I'd like to have the question of whether we add an additional bullet dealt with before I vote on whether to slash the whole thing.

The earlier point made by Mr. Lawrence was that he was amenable to adding a point about buses. If he's amenable to that, then I'm amenable to keeping all the points. Otherwise, I'll vote with Ms. Romanado and we'll keep it really simple.