Okay.
Maybe picking up on that.... It seems like there's a bit of a debate around the relative merits of hard, grey infrastructure—like what was built in the 1960s and 1970s, the old “army corps of engineers” style of armouring the banks of rivers—and this newer way of thinking around natural infrastructure and how to use ecosystems.
Could you talk about the relative merits? Maybe you could start on that topic, and then we can pick it up next round, given that we only have 10 more seconds.