Thank you very much.
I'll go briefly to Ms. Murray.
Your testimony reflects very closely our deep concerns with the way that HFR has turned out in terms of the government's conceptualization of it and the privatization model. You spoke very briefly about examples from other jurisdictions, where there is good public high-speed rail, that could inform Canada's approach. Could you elaborate a little bit on examples around the world of where high-speed or high-frequency rail has been built using public procurement?