To me, it's all about opening the scales. At West Hawk, which is on the Manitoba-Ontario border, the scale hardly ever closes. We don't have problems of poorly maintained roads, poorly operated trucks. They get into Winnipeg, but when you go west out of Winnipeg, this ends.
Open up the scales. The province has invested millions of dollars into a few new scales. There's one just outside Thunder Bay right now that has visibility of traffic going both ways for probably two miles. It's open, I'm going to say, eight hours a day, maybe four days a week. There's a truck stop two miles away from it, so if a driver knows he can't pass the safety and knows he's out of hours, he sits there in the truck stop at Pass Lake and waits for the lights to stop flashing. Then he carries on.
It's so easy for these guys to operate. If the scales were open 24-7—not just in Ontario but in every province—we would all be safer, and I don't just mean truckers. I mean that everybody would be safer.