I think there's good collaboration. Our organization is made up of 17 port administrations, and the CEOs get together four times a year to discuss challenges the industry is facing.
Obviously, I can't be sharing commercial information, but we operate technical committees where our members get together to talk about things like security, environmental best practices and operational best practices. There is a lot of collaboration and not as much competition as I think we hear about. There seems to be a bit more of a perception of fierce competition. It's not like Air Canada and WestJet. It's very different.