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Evidence of meeting #3 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Chrystia Freeland  Minister of Transport and Internal Trade
Dominic LeBlanc  Minister responsible for Canada-U.S. Trade, Intergovernmental Affairs and One Canadian Economy
Rebecca Alty  Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations
Jackson  Director, Clean Growth Office, Privy Council Office
Fox  Deputy Clerk of the Privy Council and Deputy Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Privy Council Office
Sonea  Director, Advocacy, Canadian Cancer Society
Cunningham  Senior Policy Analyst, Canadian Cancer Society
Ahmad Khan  Director General, Québec and Atlantic Canada, David Suzuki Foundation
Chartrand  President, National Government of the Red River Métis, Manitoba Métis Federation
Chief Trevor Mercredi  Treaty 8 First Nations of Alberta
Johnson  Director of Government Relations and Communications, Carpenters' Regional Council
Schumann  Canadian Government Affairs Director, International Union of Operating Engineers
Cyr  Managing Partner, Raven Indigenous Outcomes Funds
Sheldon Sunshine  Sturgeon Lake Cree Nation
Hatch  Vice President, Government Relations, Canadian Credit Union Association
Martin  Senior Director, Public Affairs & Corporate Counsel, Canadian Meat Council
Lance Haymond  Kebaowek First Nation
Exner-Pirot  Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute
Ritchot  Assistant Deputy Minister, Intergovernmental Affairs, Privy Council Office

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Next is NDP‑11.

Please go ahead, Mr. Kelloway.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

While the internal trade legislation is not expected to impact the rights and interests of indigenous people given its scope, section 35 rights supersede all other laws. Therefore, this amendment adds nothing new to the legislation.

Furthermore, there will be an opportunity for additional consultation specific to the legislation during the development of the regulatory framework through the Canada Gazette.

For these reasons, we oppose it.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

On NDP-12, go ahead, Mr. Kelloway.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

Very briefly, while I recognize the spirit of this amendment, Mr. Chair, this is the language used in all legislative review portions of bills, and this would be included. Therefore, we'll be opposing this amendment.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 2 agreed to)

(Clause 3 agreed to)

(On clause 4)

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Clause 4 brings us to NDP-13. NDP-13 seeks to introduce a new concept that is also related to NDP-18. I wanted to read that out. It's important.

Mr. Lawrence, go ahead.

10:30 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

Conservatives believe strongly in the importance of unionized jobs, so we will be supporting NDP-13.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

On NDP-14, are there questions, comments or concerns?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

On NDP-15, if NDP-15 is adopted, colleagues, NDP-16 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall NDP-16 carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

On NDP-17, are there any questions, comments, concerns?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

We now go to BQ‑1.

You don't have to speak to it, Mr. Barsalou‑Duval, but would you like to move it?

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

Yes, I move amendment BQ‑1.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Does anyone wish to comment?

Shall BQ‑1 carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

We now go to BQ‑2.

For everyone's information, amendment BQ‑2 introduces a new concept that also appears in amendment BQ‑40.

Would you like to move the amendment, Mr. Barsalou‑Duval?

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

I move amendment BQ‑2, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you.

Are there any questions or comments on the amendment?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

That brings us to BQ‑3.

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

I move amendment BQ‑3.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you.

If BQ‑3 is adopted, NDP‑18 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

Are there any questions or comments on BQ‑3?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

We are moving on to NDP‑18.

On NDP-18, are there questions, comments or concerns, colleagues?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

PV-1 is deemed moved; therefore, NDP-19 cannot be debated, as they are identical.

Shall PV-1 carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

This brings us to CPC-1. First, somebody has to move it.

10:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

I so move to ensure transparency and fairness for proponents and to report to Parliament.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Are there any other questions or comments?

Monsieur Barsalou-Duval, go ahead.

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

I have a quick comment.

I just want to say that what's being proposed gives the government considerable leeway to determine whether a project is in the national interest. This, too, is an example of governance by order, meaning that the government decides how the legislation will be implemented.

It is with great disappointment that I will be voting in favour of the amendment, given that it nevertheless mitigates some of the shortcomings in the current bill.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you, Mr. Barsalou‑Duval.

Mr. Kelloway, go ahead.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

On this side of the table, we think this is enabling legislation. There's more to do in the implementation to address concerns like this, but we believe that this is not the right place, so we'll be voting no.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Shall PV-2 carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will now jump to NDP-20. Are there questions or comments?

Seeing none, shall NDP-20 carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will now go to PV-3. Are there questions, comments or concerns?

Seeing none, shall PV-3 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will now go to BQ-4.

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

Mr. Chair, I move amendment BQ‑4.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you, Mr. Barsalou‑Duval.

Are there any questions or comments? Does anyone need any clarification?

Go ahead, Mr. Kelloway.