If the Liberals are trying to remove multiple ministers from presiding, including.... It sounds to me that you've relented on the fact that we're going to have the Minister of Public Safety for an hour in public—that is fine—but if you're asking for the Minister of Labour and for the Secretary of State for the CRA to be removed, that is intolerable. It actually removes the whole state that.... We are trying to have some public disclosure and accountability. If you do not have those ministers there, it is a substantial change to the motion.
