If we look at what was identified as budgetary requirements for Agent Orange compensation, we will find that the moneys were not spent. If we look at what was identified as the budgetary requirements for the VIP extension for pre-1981 widows, we will see that the money was not spent. Those are examples of what I mean.
I'll go back to my previous example. The uptake on programs for seniors across the country, for example, is about 12% of the totality of the population. The uptake for veterans is about 12% to 14%, which is a little higher. I think the department should use those statistics to guide themselves when they're setting budgetary estimates. That's basically what I am suggesting.