In your remarks, you also urged upon us to follow the example in other countries with respect to exempting the Department of Veterans Affairs from the cuts, and you'd be well aware of what happened in the House this week. It's too bad we didn't have you here sooner. Maybe you might have been able to change some minds.
If you follow the debate in the House, one of the things that we repeatedly heard from the minister was that if this motion passes, it's a vote in favour of red tape and bureaucracy, almost seeming to imply that it would be impossible to reduce red tape and reduce bureaucracy if Veterans Affairs Canada had their budget maintained.
Could I get your perspective on that?