I want to clarify. Mélanie does the transition interview. She and two other case managers handle all the CF members—not veterans yet—in the greater Ottawa area. It's more than Ottawa and this area, right? Once they have transitioned out of the forces, they are transferred to a case manager wherever they are going to be retiring.
They handle a big caseload. They also do some case management. They do work with the military case managers, do the interviews, and help them with the medically releasing. There are case managers, but she's assigned to the IPSC. All the soldiers assigned to the IPSC work with Mélanie and her peers.
Once you have left the IPSC, or JPSU, if you're military, you go into....That's what we were talking about yesterday, the ratios. The average across Canada is 1 in 34. The target is 1 in 40.
We are concerned about that, I'll be honest, because our members....As I mentioned yesterday, and Mélanie touched on it earlier, the intensity and complexity of the work, because of mental issues, is much higher than it used to be.