Evidence of meeting #108 for Veterans Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was benefits.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Grant McLaughlin
Sean Bruyea  Retired Captain, Air Force Intelligence Officer, As an Individual
Christopher Banks  Sergeant (Retired), As an Individual
Michael Blois  Lawyer, Veteran, Canadian Afghanistan War Veterans Association
Rebecca Patterson  Senator, Ontario, CSG
Colonel  Retired) Mark Gasparotto (Afghanistan Veteran Combat Sub-unit Commander, As an Individual
Lieutenant-Colonel  Retired) Dean Tremblay (Afghanistan Veteran Combat Sub-unit Commander, As an Individual

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

For sure I can, as chair, accept other witnesses. I know that next week is going to be a break week, but I have to give instruction to the clerk also.

As well, we have witnesses in front of us so, members of the committee, we have to decide or—

Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC

Chair—

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Yes, Ms.—

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I'm sorry, but I still have the floor, Chair.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Go ahead, Mr. Richards.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

This seems as though it might be a discussion that we need to have in committee business, and we can allow the witnesses.... We have very little time left, and it seems there is some confusion here as to what will occur and what won't.

I would suggest that we set this aside and table it for committee business, Chair.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Thank you so much.

Now let's go to Ms. Blaney. You have the floor.

Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC

Could I just call for the vote? I think the committee can make a decision. Most people want to make a decision, and I think we should just vote on it.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Before we go to a vote, Mr. Desilets would like to say something.

Luc Desilets Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Mr. Chair, I am requesting two additional meetings, which would be four hours in total. I removed the last part of my motion regarding the witnesses. In my opinion, we can call witnesses back, as any committee can do. That is my intention, but I would send their names to the clerk. On the other hand, there are two new witnesses we would like to invite to the committee, including Alex Ruff, a Conservative MP whose thoughts on the matter I would really like to hear.

I am certainly in favour of voting on this. I am really sorry; I thought this could be dealt with in two minutes.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Thank you, Mr. Desilets.

Before talking about the witness list, we have to agree to the motion.

Mr. Richards, the floor is yours.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Chair, I will make a quick amendment to the motion. Hopefully, it can be adopted quickly, as I want to get back to the witnesses as well.

If we're going to have additional meetings, I know that the Minister of National Defence has been invited, but I would amend the motion by adding that we invite the Minister of Veterans Affairs to appear as one of the witnesses for this study as well.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

That was Mr. Desilets's intention when he presented the motion.

As I see it, we can now proceed with the vote in light of Mr. Richards's remarks.

It seems that we can say that there was a unanimous decision to go with that motion. Are we agreed?

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Mr. Chair, I suggested an amendment to add the Minister of Veterans Affairs as a witness. Are we voting on that first?

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Okay. First, on the amendment, are there any objections to adopting the amendment presented by Mr. Richards?

There are not.

Now, on the motion as amended, are there any objections to adopting the motion as amended?

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

I object, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Okay.

For the motion as amended, I'm going to ask the clerk to take the vote to make sure that we are on the same page.

We're going to take the vote on the motion as amended.

Sean Casey Liberal Charlottetown, PE

Are we not going to vote on the amendment?

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

There was no objection to it.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I have a point of order, Chair.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Go ahead on a point of order, Mr. Richards.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

You clearly indicated that you were asking whether there was any objection, which means you were seeking unanimous consent. You indicated that you had received that unanimous consent. I believe that we have in fact passed the amendment.

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

No, I objected immediately.

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

I understand that too, Mr. Richards, but I have a lot of colleagues saying that it was not their understanding, so I think I have to find a way to permit all of you guys to intervene. I think that we can go to a vote on the amendment and after that go to the motion.

Luc Desilets Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

That's what I was saying to the clerk. I was careful to add to the last sentence a request for a one-hour meeting with the minister. That is already in the motion, so we don't need an amendment on that. Moreover, a motion to that effect was already presented two weeks ago.