I can only speak for the time I was on the pension advisory committee. I was there for a long time. They pussyfooted around on the information and never provided complete information to the advisory committee at the time that I was on it. I was on it until, say, 2013-14. I had been there for a long time. All I heard from the chief actuary was that it was going to be expensive, but what that meant, I didn't know.
Of course, we've always advocated that changes were possible, because of the $30-billion surplus that was in the pension fund prior to the year 2000. If you recall, at that time the government changed the pension legislation to permit investments. What gets me, in the conversation, if I can offer one personal comment, is forget about 1901, and focus on this year. We tend to try to change legislation. Let's not change legislation; let's think about establishing legislation. Take the situation that we have today and establish it, getting rid of all the negatives that happened in the past. That's just a personal note.