Typically, I see it mostly in the senior NCOs, to be honest. For the most part, officers have a university degree. Canada likes university degrees for a variety of reasons—probably because most federal government employees have university degrees—so they typically find jobs out there.
It's not uncommon for senior NCOs to have decades of experience and knowledge, and the ability to do the majority of jobs. Most warrants and sergeants do officers' jobs when there are not enough officers, so they have all of the capability to do it.
In terms of individual examples of that.... Successful stories are not part of the public narrative or in the conversation very much, so a lot of the soldiers don't know what's possible. They think, “This job doesn't really match me very well, I'm not enjoying it, and I don't make a lot of money doing it, but I guess this is the kind of job I can expect.”
You want to change the narrative around it. You want to champion and celebrate people who have successfully transitioned and are now doing really important jobs. A lot of that starts with a larger framework for the country, because it's that population that gets really chewed out because of the lack of a degree or something, going forward.