Debates of Dec. 14th, 1994

Department Of Canadian Heritage Act

[The Deputy Speaker]

Pursuant to Standing Order 76(1)(8) a recorded division on the Motion No. 12 stands deferred.

I will now propose the third group of motions.

[René Laurin, Bloc, Joliette, QC]

Mr. Speaker, we do not know whether we are voting on Motion No. 13 or Motion No. 14, because you started off saying it was Motion No. 13 standing in the name of Mrs. Tremblay, and now you mentioned Motion No. 14. Could we have some clarification?

[The Deputy Speaker]

It is pretty complicated, because in some cases we need to divide on one motion to apply the results to another.

When we get the result of Motion No. 12, we will then know what happens to Motion No. 13.

We will now proceed with the vote on Motion No. 14. I am sorry, but this is complicated for the Chair as well.

[René Laurin, Bloc, Joliette, QC]

Yes, but when do we vote on Motion No. 13?

[The Deputy Speaker]

After the vote on Motion No. 12.

[René Laurin, Bloc, Joliette, QC]

I see.

[The Deputy Speaker]

We will now proceed with the vote on Motion No. 14.

[Jan Brown, Reform, Calgary Southeast, AB]

moved:

Motion No. 14

That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting new Clause 8.

Motion No. 15

That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting new Clause 8.1.

Motion No. 16

That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting new Clause 8.2.

[Suzanne Tremblay, Bloc, Rimouski—Témiscouata, QC]

moved:

Motion No. 17

That Bill C-53 be amended by adding after new subclause 8.3(1) with the following:

"(1.1) The Minister shall, at least 60 days before the date on which the Minister fixes or increases a fee under section 8, 8.1 or 8.2, cause to be published in the Canada Gazette by such appropriate electronic or other means that the Treasury Board may authorize by regulation and in no fewer than two leading newspapers in each province a notice clearly indicating a ) the products, services, rights, privileges, regulatory processes, approvals or use of facilities provided under these sections; and b ) the fees to be fixed or increased pursuant to these sections.''

[The Deputy Speaker]

The hon. member for Rimouski-Témiscouata on a point of order.

[Suzanne Tremblay, Bloc, Rimouski—Témiscouata, QC]

Mr. Speaker, we were given a piece of paper which says: votes on Bill C-53. It says that after Motion No. 14, we would go on to Motion No. 20. You mentioned Motions Nos. 15, 16 and 17. According to this paper, we were supposed to go from Motion No. 14 to Motion No. 20.

[The Deputy Speaker]

Motions Nos. 14, 15, 16 and 17 have all been discussed. We will now vote on Motion No. 14. The results of the vote on Motion No. 14 will apply to Motions Nos. 15, 16, 18 and 19. Is that clear? Does the hon. member for Rimouski-Témiscouata agree?

[Suzanne Tremblay, Bloc, Rimouski—Témiscouata, QC]

Yes.

[Jan Brown, Reform, Calgary Southeast, AB]

moved:

Motion No. 18

That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting new Clause 8.3.

Motion No. 19

That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting new Clause 8.4.

[The Deputy Speaker]

The question is on Motion No. 14 which will also apply to Motions Nos. 15, 16, 18 and 19. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[Some hon. members]

No.

[The Deputy Speaker]

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

[Some hon. members]

Yea.

[The Deputy Speaker]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

[The Deputy Speaker]

In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

[The Deputy Speaker]

Pursuant to Standing Order 76(1)(8) a recorded division of the motion stands deferred.

[Jan Brown, Reform, Calgary Southeast, AB]

moved:

Motion No. 20

That Bill C-53 be amended by adding after new Clause 8.4 the following new Clause:

"8.5 The Minister shall cause to be laid before each House of Parliament, not later than the fifth sitting day of that House after January 31 next following the end of each fiscal year, a report showing the operations of the Department for that fiscal year."

Motion No. 23

That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting Clause 33.

[The Deputy Speaker]

The question is on Motion No. 20. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?