I thank the hon. member for the question. That was on my list but I did not get to it. That is a good example of one of the cases where we have to be careful. We do not want to let the pendulum swing too far in either direction.
At the time of reforming the penitentiaries in 1971 it was very Draconian and there is no question we were not saving as many souls as we were possibly able to under those conditions. Therefore in swinging the pendulum there is a very good possibility we went too far in the other direction. Now is the time to put the rights of the victims at least where they should be, which is always ahead of the rights of the criminals.
I accept the hon. member's point and thank him.