Mr. Speaker, in the member's statement he outlined his concerns for the fact that we may send young people under 18 years to penitentiary or to prison. I do not think that is the issue here. I think crime is the issue and the Young Offenders Act is the issue.
If they are prepared to commit the crime they ought to be prepared to do the time. That is the penalty or the price they pay for antisocial behaviour in this country.
What does the member say to victims of young offenders' crime? The case that comes to mind very quickly is the Martensville case in Saskatchewan. I know personally some of the victims. What does the member say to the parents and the grandparents of two and three year old children? Does he say that we cannot send young offenders to prison because they may get sexually abused or that it is not a nice place? How would the member handle that?