Mr. Speaker, in response to the member's first question about who would make the final decision on a bill, it really is a very simple process, almost too simple to believe it could work. Many times in the past ordinary rank and file Canadians have had ideas that seem too simple to work, yet they do.
When talking about where the final responsibility would be for a bill, what would happen under a triple-E Senate would be as is the normal process in the House. We would vote on and pass a bill, send it to the other place and the Senate would then have the opportunity to either accept or defeat it and send it back.
The other part of the solution is that the defeat of a government motion or bill would not necessarily bring down the government. That is the safeguard in sending a bill back from Senate which was not passed in the Senate. The bill would come back to this House, we would deal with it again, make it better and make it acceptable to the Senate. The process would work very well.
As far as the second part of the member's question about one House by itself in a province, I assume he means Saskatchewan. Certainly on a provincial level it is an entirely different issue, or at least it is in my province which is thinly populated, with fewer than a million people. There is no need for an upper and lower house in that type of process. Certainly in a Canadian-wide process where there are 10 provinces, much diversity and many different areas, there is certainly a need for an effective Senate.