Mr. Speaker, through you, the hon. member is as convoluted as his party's policy on this. He moves from Charter of Rights and Freedoms to the IRB to immigration policy. He is changing his adjectives.
This minister has not abdicated policy for the IRB. What I have said time in and time out is that this minister and this government will not get involved in the day to day adjudication of cases before the Immigration and Refugee Board regardless of how many times its critics get up and give us the blood and the guts and the gore of individual cases. We are responsible for the general policy framework under which the IRB operates.
Second, you want a tangible way as to how to get at the root problem.