Mr. Speaker, talking about cheap shots, let me quote the hon. member: "Mr. Manera is not staying to fight. It is an abdication of leadership which means that he is not up to the challenge of developing a blueprint for changing broadcasting".
The only figures that have been passed on by my department to Mr. Manera and the CBC are the figures of the program review. The government established one year of budget for the CBC, the next fiscal year. The other figures amount to 15 to 10 per cent for the next three years. They were contained in the program review of last August.