Debates of June 14th, 1995

Criminal Code

[The Speaker]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

[The Speaker]

In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

(The House divided on Motion No. 12, which was negatived on the following division:)

[The Speaker]

I declare Motion No. 12 lost.

[Jim Silye, Reform, Calgary Centre, AB]

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would like you to clarify two things for me. I have noticed that a lot of government members are going in and out of their seats. I believe-

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh.

[The Speaker]

The hon. whip of the Reform Party has the floor.

[Jim Silye, Reform, Calgary Centre, AB]

Mr. Speaker, I rose to ask you to please check the record on the last vote on Motion No. 12. I believe you will find the minister of immigration cast his vote and should be in that total, but before the totals were given he left his seat. That vote should not count.

[The Speaker]

Colleagues, you will recall earlier in the night I asked you to kindly stay in your seats from the beginning to the end of each vote. Perhaps one or two members did leave a bit earlier. I cannot see all members at the same time. I appeal to you that when a vote begins, once you vote please stay in your seat until the vote is terminated.

I will do it this one time. Because an hon. member questioned another hon. member's presence, it is very simple, did the hon. minister of immigration leave his seat during the vote?

[Sergio Marchi, Liberal, York West, ON]

Yes.

[The Speaker]

There it is. His vote in this instance I rule will not count by his own admission.

I ask members to please abide by the rules. We will get through these votes, they will just take a little while.

The next question is on Motion No. 13. An affirmative vote on Motion No. 13 obviates the necessity of putting the question on Motion No. 14. A negative vote on Motion No. 13 necessitates the question being put on Motion No. 14.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[Some hon. members]

No.

[The Speaker]

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

[Some hon. members]

Yea.

[The Speaker]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

[The Speaker]

In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

(The House divided on Motion No. 13, which was negatived on division:)

[The Speaker]

I declare Motion No. 13 lost.

The next question is on Motion No. 14. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[Some hon. members]

No.

[The Speaker]

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

[Some hon. members]

Yea.

[The Speaker]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.