Debates of June 7th, 1995

Supply

[Some hon. members]

No.

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. Kilger)]

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

[Some hon. members]

Yea.

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. Kilger)]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. Kilger)]

In my opinion the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

[The Acting Speaker (Mr. Kilger)]

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

[The Speaker]

I declare the motion carried.

Committees Of The House

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Mr. Speaker, in view of the concern about the estimates process and the willingness of all parties recognized in the House to improve the process, I would now seek unanimous consent to move the following motion, in the spirit of co-operation we have been getting and are anticipating later tonight.

I move:

That the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be instructed to undertake a comprehensive review of the business of supply, with particular

attention to the reform of the estimates, the processes and mechanisms by which the House and its committees may consider and dispose of them; and

That the committee make a report thereon no later than December 1, 1995.

[Some hon. members]

Hear, hear.

[Elwin Hermanson, Reform, Kindersley—Lloydminster, SK]

Mr. Speaker, I welcome the motion the government has brought forward. There has been consultation with all parties in the House. Recognition that we may have been sitting here all night without even being able to vote to reduce the estimates brought to the attention of all of us the need to review the standing orders with a view to finding reforms to make this process meaningful so that we can adequately represent Canadians in the whole process of reviewing the expenditures of the government.

[Len Taylor, NDP, The Battlefords—Meadow Lake, SK]

Mr. Speaker, in light of the fact that the New Democrats have expressed concern in the past about the way in which supply is dealt with here, we certainly concur with the motion put forward by the government whip.

In light of the fact that the government whip indicated there was agreement from all recognized parties in the House, we are happy to participate in the process.

[The Speaker]

Is that agreed?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

(Motion agreed to.)

The House resumed consideration of the business of supply.

Supply

[Art Eggleton, Liberal, President of the Treasury Board and Minister responsible for Infrastructure]

moved:

Motion No. 2

That Vote 5, in the amount of $155,817,000 under Parliament-House of Commons-Program expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1996 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Mr. Speaker, if you were to ask, I think you would find unanimous consent to apply the vote just completed to the motion now before the House in the following way: Liberal Party members will vote yea.

[Gilles Duceppe, Bloc, Laurier—Sainte-Marie, QC]

On vote 5, Bloc Quebecois members will also vote yea.

[Jim Silye, Reform, Calgary Centre, AB]

Mr. Speaker, the Reform Party members vote no, but we really think the government should reduce this billion dollars by $9 million.

[John Solomon, NDP, Regina—Lumsden, SK]

Mr. Speaker, members of the New Democratic Party present in the House today vote nay.

[Russell MacLellan, Liberal, Cape Breton—The Sydneys, NS]

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would like my vote to count with the government henceforth this evening.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

[The Speaker]

I declare the motion carried.

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent that the vote taken on vote 10 of the President of the Treasury Board under Human Resources Development, the first vote we took this evening, be also applied to the following:

Vote 1 of the President of the Treasury Board under Parliament and the Senate;

Vote 1 under the Privy Council, the department;

Vote 1 under National Revenue, the department;

Vote 1 under Human Resources Development, employment and immigration;

Vote 5 under Human Resources Development, employment insurance program;

Vote 25 under Human Resources Development, income security program;

Vote 30 under Human Resources Development, social development and education program;

Vote 1 under Western Economic Diversification;

Vote 1 under Health, the health program;

Vote 5, the President of the Treasury Board under the health program;

Vote 10 under Health, health program;

Vote 20 under Health, Medical Research Council;

Vote 25 under Health, Medical Research Council;

Vote 40 under Canadian Heritage, the Canada Council;

Vote 140 under Canadian Heritage, the Public Service Commission;

Vote 10 under Public Works, real property program;

Vote 35 under Public Works, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation;

Vote 40 under Public Works, the Canada Post Corporation;

Vote 10 under Transport, the department;

Vote 1 under Agriculture, the department;

Vote 5 under Agriculture, the Canadian Grain Commission;

Vote 10 under Agriculture, the department;

Vote 15 under Agriculture, grants and contributions;

Vote 15 under Human Resources Development, labour program;

Vote 20 under Human Resources Development, labour program;

Vote 40 under Human Resources Development, the Canada Labour Relations Board;

Vote 50 under Human Resources Development, the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health;

Vote 1 under Citizenship and Immigration, the department;

Vote 5 under Citizenship and Immigration, the department;

Vote 1 under Foreign Affairs and International Trade, external affairs;

Vote 5 under Foreign Affairs and International Trade, external affairs;

Vote 10 under Foreign Affairs and International Trade, external affairs, grants and contributions;

Vote 1 under Natural Resources, energy, mines and resources program;

Vote 5 under Natural Resources, energy, mines and resources program;

Vote 10 under Natural Resources, energy, mines and resources program;

Vote 25 under the Privy Council, official languages;

Vote 5 under the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency;

Vote 1 under the Treasury Board;

Vote 5 under the Treasury Board;

Vote 45 under Finance, FORD-Q;

Vote 50 under Finance;

Vote 5 under Western Economic Diversification, program;

Vote 10 under Environment;

Vote 5 under the Privy Council;

Vote 35 under the Privy Council;

Vote 5 under Finance.

[The Speaker]

Is that agreed?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.