Mr. Speaker, we know very well these helicopters are old and we know very well the parliamentary committee of which the hon. member was a participant recommended they be replaced. This is a matter the government said was to be pursued in the white paper. On the other hand, it does not want us to spend money.
It is a matter for consideration. Since the armoured personnel carrier contract is now en route we will look at the helicopters. In the meantime these helicopters are certified to fly until the year 2000. They are perfectly safe. I have been on them many times. If the hon. member would like to go for a ride I would welcome giving him one.