Mr. Speaker, where the member and I have a difference of opinion is that I do not profess to have any idea of the source of El Nino. I am rather surprised she has taken a quantum leap on—I have no idea—its actual source. There may be a relationship but we simply do not know. Until we know, to trash our economy and trash the communities I represent are not acceptable alternatives.
In terms of the developing countries taking significant steps, I ask where Canada started. Canada is in a position of having done a tremendous amount of reduction of CO2 emissions from 1990 to 1995.
I do not really understand if we are at a level of only contributing 2% of CO2 emissions. We are not just talking about CO2 emissions. We are talking about greenhouse gas emissions that are broader than CO2 emissions. We are at a point of having things in a position where we can continue to improve but are only contributing 2%. She says we must do something significant on climate change. Let us assume, just for the sake of argument, that Canada is in a cost effective position to reduce its CO2 emissions and greenhouse gas emissions by 10%. This would be a quantum leap. In the case of CO2 it would reduce worldwide CO2 emissions by .2%.
When we do not have the developing nations, Russia, China, Ukraine and India at Kyoto, nations which combined contribute 27% of the CO2 emissions, where are we going with this? Once again the position of the Liberals is one of do good, feel good.