Let us just take it from here then. It is understood that because of the nature of the debate and the topic that is being debated, in general terms, it is fair ball. If members refer to a specific individual who does not have the same privilege to defend himself or herself with the same impunity in the Chamber, that is where we get into the problem.
In general terms it is quite appropriate because what we are talking about is the remuneration of the judiciary. What we are not talking about is the individual conduct of a particular member of the bench.