Mr. Speaker, the hon. member knows that is not what I said, but let me repeat it for his benefit. What I said was that I have known the secretary of state for a long time.
If the hon. member would like to go back and look at the transcripts when the secretary of state was the chairman of the House of Commons finance committee, what he will see is a member of parliament, a member of the House and a member of the government who consistently fought for Canadian families, who consistently fought for Canadian children. He did not do it with any help from the hon. member or any of his ilk.