Madam Speaker, my opportunity to sit on the HRDC committee and hear from the various agencies the great things they did with the help of HRDC grants flies in the face of the comments of the hon. member.
We all know that the intention of our government, the Government of Canada, and Canadian taxpayers is for people to be helped in society. Cutting taxes is not supposed to be the primary goal for anybody; it is to provide good services to the people of the country. That is exactly what we were doing with the HRDC grants.