Mr. Speaker, it appears that there really is no great plan. It is as if there is a new revelation every day. It appears that for a long time the government has been flying by the seat of its pants. Had it perhaps in the early days of this scandal reacted in a forthright and open way and come to the House with clean hands, there may have been more sympathy for what it is trying to do now.
Dividing up the department when we know there is a huge problem is like dividing a big manure pile into three piles. It is still a big problem. It smells and it is rotten. I do not think this is the answer at all.
This is similar to the problem we saw with respect to the gathering of information on Canadians by this department and trying to keep it separate and solo, but we knew it leaked. It is information that is being spread around and the problem is being spread around. It is not being addressed in a significant way despite the assurances of the minister that everything is in hand and that Canadians should trust her and have faith in her. Sadly, that time has passed.
If we were dealing with a situation where the minister had come to the House and made full disclosure in the first instance, we might have had some faith, but the time has passed. I have a great deal of confidence that there are good people within the human resources department who are trying to deal with this issue under very difficult circumstances.