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House of Commons Hansard #124 of the 36th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was petro-canada.

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11:10 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker

Just before I put the question, the Chair would like to clarify something that happened earlier today.

At the beginning of debate this morning when government orders were called, the clerk at the table rose and announced that the item of business to be called was Bill C-8 at report stage. The announcement was complete. The government House leader indicated that had not been his wish. He wished to proceed with the motion that is now before the House and which I am about to put to the House.

The hon. member for Verchères—Les-Patriotes raised a point of order, asking the Chair to continue with Bill C-8, which had been called by the clerk at the table. At that time I decided that the government was always entitled to change the order of government orders. That is what was done through the intervention of the government House leader.

I regret that it appears the Chair made an error in making such a ruling. In fact, the Chair should have proceeded with Bill C-8 at that time. The hon. member for Verchères—Les-Patriotes was quite correct in that, and I cite for the House on this point, Erskine May's book Parliamentary Practice , page 319:

When an order of the day has been read, it must thereupon be proceeded with, appointed for a future day, or discharged. It cannot be postponed until after another order except as the result of a motion moved by a Minister of the Crown at the commencement of public business.

The motion had in fact been called and should have been proceeded with.

That said, I must also indicate that your Chair has, like all other members, read the new work on this subject, House of Commons Procedure and Practice , by our distinguished colleagues Messrs. Marleau and Montpetit.

Its wording is less precise. It states:

When Government Orders is called, any item listed may be brought before the House for consideration. Any item that has been called, and on which debate has begun, must be dealt with until adjourned, interrupted or disposed of.

The wording in the new book is not as precise as in Erskine May, but I must state that our practice—and obviously I have been well advised on this—has always been what is given in Erskine May, and not in the new book.

I read something and believed it. Hence my decision, but it was obviously in error, and the hon. member for Verchères—Les-Patriotes was absolutely right. Certainly the next time there will not be such a disaster.

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Bloc

Louis Plamondon Bloc Richelieu, QC

Mr. Speaker, if you are saying that you made a mistake when you authorized the tabling of the motion and the debate, the motion must be withdrawn. This debate should not have taken place and we must revert to the former version of Bill C-8 and ignore the part dealing with this motion.

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The Deputy Speaker

The problem is that the Chair made a mistake. The decision had been taken and it was over and done with. We have now completed the debate and the House is ready to vote on the matter. I must therefore put the question to the House.

I am sorry, and this time I am sure that I am not mistaken.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Some hon. members

No.

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The Deputy Speaker

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

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Some hon. members

Yea.

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The Deputy Speaker

All those opposed will please say nay.

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Some hon. members

Nay.

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The Deputy Speaker

In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

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The Deputy Speaker

Call in the members.

And the bells having rung:

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The Deputy Speaker

At the request of the deputy government whip, the vote on the motion is deferred until Monday at the conclusion of government orders.

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11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Marlene Catterall Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Mr. Speaker, I have two motions to present.

First, pursuant to discussions between all the parties and the hon. member for Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys concerning the taking of the division on M-259 scheduled at the conclusion of private members' business today, I think you would find consent for the following motion. I move:

That at the conclusion today's debate on M-259, all questions necessary to dispose of the said motion be deemed put, a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until Tuesday, October 3, 2000, at the expiry of the time provided for government orders.

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The Deputy Speaker

Does the deputy government whip have the unanimous consent of the House to propose this motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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The Deputy Speaker

Is it the pleasure of the House to aodpt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

(Motion agreed to)

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Liberal

Marlene Catterall Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Mr. Speaker, I hope there will be unanimous consent as well for the following motion. I move:

That private members' business item, C-469 in the name of Mr. Jordan, now stand instead on the order paper in the name of Mrs. Jennings;

That private members' business item, C-438 in the name of Ms. Redman, now stand instead on the order paper in the name of Ms. Torsney;

That private members' business item, C-230 in the name of Ms. Bulte, now stand instead in the name of Ms. Carroll;

That private members' business M-418 in the name of Mr. Szabo, now stand instead in the name of Mr. Calder;

And that Private Members' Business C-457, in the name of Ms Leung, be withdrawn and the order for consideration thereof discharged.

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The Deputy Speaker

Is there unanimous consent of the House to adopt this motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

(Motion agreed to)

The House resumed consideration of Bill C-8, an act respecting marine conservation areas, as reported (with amendment) from the committee.

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September 28th, 2000 / 11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Jocelyne Girard-Bujold Bloc Jonquière, QC

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I ask for the unanimous consent of the House to introduce the amendments to Bill C-8 standing in the name of the hon. member for Portneuf, since the hon. member cannot be with us today.

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The Deputy Speaker

Is there unanimous consent of the House to allow the hon. member for Jonquière to introduce the motions standing in the name of the hon. member for Portneuf?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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The Deputy Speaker

I will now put the motions in Group No. 2 to the House.