Mr. Speaker, the member should come out to British Columbia where I live and look at the people who have been waiting on lists for up to a year for cancer treatments. He should come out and talk to the people who have been waiting for heart surgery for months, or talk to children who have serious illnesses, sometimes fatal, who cannot get into a hospital. He should come out and speak to the people who are having to close schools in British Columbia and ask them if they have seen the cuts.
He should come out and talk to the people and get out of these white ivory towers. If he would talk to people and quit trying to baffle them with a bunch of numbers he would see real people hurting. He would see suffering out there. I hear all the members yelling and screaming that they can do their own math, but their math is not credible.