Mr. Speaker, when it comes to ambitions to fool the world, I read an interesting article on the weekend. It was actually by the former Liberal environment minister Sheila Copps.
She said that she went to a meeting with Angela Merkel a number of years ago on climate change and while she was there, the former Liberal prime minister, the member for LaSalle—Émard, and Anne McLellan were trying to revoke or negotiate a mandate in favour of big oil. She said it was the Liberals that were siding with the United States to prevent any reductions in greenhouse gases. I guess that is the difference between the Liberal big talk and Liberal big emissions rise.