Mr. Speaker, that would be without the engine. I would remind my colleague from Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, part of the F-35 fiasco is that the F-35s would be delivered without engines, which would almost be humourous if it were not so sad. After that the jet engines are put in, and following that, we have the maintenance costs.
In the House of Commons on April 2nd, 2012. See this statement in context.