Mr. Speaker, the minister is still talking about talking. For 20 years now, the Transportation Safety Board of Canada, the TSB, has been saying that DOT-111 cars are not safe. Twenty years. That means that the Conservatives and the Liberals ignored recommendations for improving rail safety. They ignored the warning signs.
Then came the Lac-Mégantic tragedy. The TSB is again recommending that the use of old DOT-111 cars be discontinued.
Can the minister tell us, right now, when these cars will be taken off the tracks?