Mr. Speaker, the minister is still talking about talking. For 20 years now, the Transportation Safety Board of Canada, the TSB, has been saying that DOT-111 cars are not safe. Twenty years. That means that the Conservatives and the Liberals ignored recommendations for improving rail safety. They ignored the warning signs.
Then came the Lac Mégantic tragedy. The TSB is again recommending that the use of old DOT-111 cars be discontinued.
Can the minister tell us, right now, when these cars will be taken off the tracks?